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Using Google Maps/Street View to locate cameras...

Postby delta_foxtrot » Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:38 pm

Moved the post from here

Foxy wrote:Yes, but it is a forum, so I gave a "generic" answer so that other people are motivated to post data as well 8) Of course, the data that you enter manually by travelling with Google street belongs to you, so if you offer them to FoxyTag then I will add it. :D


Ahh ok, fair enough :)

If you continue to send us data as fast as you do it now, then yes, FoxyTag will be deployed there. And once it is deployed, since it is collaborative, it usually goes very fast until we have almost all the speed cameras. That's at least what we observed for Europe.


I've drawn up a spread sheet of all the RTA, the body that runs the cameras in one state in Australia, and I know which cameras you already had information for, and now I'm just locating the other cameras to give you the locations for ;)
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:40 pm

The data below was collected by me personally by trawling google street view based on locations I have been past/know of.

It is my understanding that copyright can't be applied to latitude and longitude, only collections of such addresses.

The collection I am building I give freely into the public domain, hopefully for the benefit of anyone, including myself using the FoxyTag software and/or database ;)

I have not obtained these addresses from any other collections of data, just google maps/street view. It's hard work, which is why I only have a dozen or so locations so far. :)

These locations can be verified by going into google maps and going to street view and spinning the direction around till you see the pair of boxes ;) (Except for the first location, since the speed camera was installed after google went past.)

The above is just cover our butt stuff, but since the method I'm using, and since there is 6 decimal places it's highly unlikely to hit the exact spot someone else has so there should be no question as to it's source, ie me. :)

-28.849985 153.449190
-33.890123 151.127726
-33.836870 151.027572
-33.906219 151.037689
-28.213603 153.545759
-33.496622 151.187426
-30.123238 151.687181
-31.784162 150.896772
-31.756935 150.821241
-33.358046 151.343083
-33.979061 151.009591
-31.462859 150.868206
-29.040319 152.017200
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:55 pm

(insert legal disclaimer as above, public domain, blah blah)

-33.371776 151.474991
-33.661326 150.797460
-34.774349 150.686127
-33.950525 151.081688
-34.854189 150.606219

Edit, 2 more makes 20

-33.898000 150.894341
-36.519345 149.829032
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:39 am

3 more... same as above, public domain licensing.

-33.487749 151.184087
-33.893698 150.894835
-36.519345 149.829032
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Postby Foxy » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:09 am

Thank you for all these points.
Note that you can also send them to poilists@fastmail.fm... :wink:
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:48 am

Foxy wrote:Thank you for all these points.
Note that you can also send them to poilists@fastmail.fm... :wink:


I did, but I didn't hear back so I thought my mails were going to /dev/null
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:18 pm

I just sent 3 more pairs of coords to poilists@fastmail.fm, and asked for confirmation that my emails aren't going into > /dev/null ;)
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:27 pm

I just noticed a problem with my method, for some reason the 'link' link in google maps doesn't always update properly, and I wasn't always double checking the co-ords, I was assuming since it worked for the ones I was checking it must always be working! ;)

So anyways I'll publish the corrent/more accurate co-ords in the morning, sorry for any trouble this may have caused anyone, I'll be sure to double check everything in future, but hopefully because of my mistakes this helps others from making the same mistakes in future.
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Postby Foxy » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:03 am

No, your mails do no go to /dev/null... They have been in security until we have enough points in order to deploy FoxyTag in these new territories. So I can drop the previous points and you will send later a new and complete file? Am I right?
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:55 pm

Yes, delete what you have and I will send you the correct locations as soon as time permits.
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Postby Foxy » Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:04 am

Thank you in advance. :)
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:03 pm

Sorry I didn't get this done as promised I got cause up in a last minute rush with work today (24th) and I'll be away tomorrow (25th) and maybe till monday, depends how I'm feeling and how far I can get away from everyone for how long ;)
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:29 am

I'm building this list in a spread sheet, and I've emailed in a CSV copy of the locations complete with google street view URLs etc pointing straight at the cameras :)

Hope to have more done shortly as time permits but time seems more scare at present.
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:25 pm

This has to be my favourite google st view shot of a speed camera so far, it also shows the street view car illegally driving in the bus lane ;)
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Postby delta_foxtrot » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:40 pm

Oh here's a tip for anyone else using google street view to locate cameras. The mistake I made was to look at the ll=, with street view you have to use cbll= instead.
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